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Little thought experiment... [Jul. 16th, 2010|10:00 am]
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[ziabandito555]
So I had a player who wanted to play a Zi Ri Pastry chef... this was too amusing to pass up but we needed an experience package to help him make it work see how this fits with all of you:

Baker's Guild Experience (+2) The Baker's guild covers many forms of cooking and baking. From the fried bun seller on any given corner to the high end chef to the local royal family. The official Baker's guild covers most forms of cooking and food preservation. Jellies, jams, cakes, sweet meats, and everything else is in their aegis. In some cities the Hostellers Guild absorbed or has absorbed the Bakers in others they are separate entities. The relative strength of this small guild varies from branch to branch town to town. None are truly powerful. In some cities it is impossible to own a restaurant or bakery without membership in the guild. In others only the wealthiest can afford a member of the guild, with commiserate higher training of course. While in others the guild only serves the middle and lower class. This can offer connections and training but really the guild's biggest offering is in recipes for fine foods and training with masters chefs. You are a dues paying member of the Guild and have five years experience in cooking and food preparation, often under highly capable teachers as the guild's only major selling point is quality, under your belt. Your training gave you experience in Crafts: Cooking (50 exp), Alertness (20 exp.), Search (5 exp.), Bargain (15 exp.), Judge Value (20 exp.), Natural Science (5 exp.) Edged (5 exp.) [all that expert cutting], Corpador (5 exp.), Durador (5 exp), Herbador (10 exp.), Creoc (5 exp.) and Sustenoc (5 exp.). Often the guild allows access to some useful spells so if they have the proper skill they might have picked up any or all of these. They are often free to members who know who to ask: Handful of Salt (Cr Su, Du 10), Fresh Water (Hl Aq 5), Chop the Delicious Veggies (De Hr 5), Fresh Meat ( Su Co, 10), Invisible Pot Holder (Ru Py 5)

Happy Yeast Home ([Cr]Mu He Py Sp 5): A minor cantrip that helps yeast feel highly comfortable as it works in bread. Considered very helpful as the spell will adjust to the Yeast's comfort giving it optimal rise.
Wondrous Lenhirrik's treat (Cr Su Hr 5): creates about P/2 lbs of sugar instantly. This is refined sugar but being magicked up it can be a tad bland.
Refined Gentlemen's Snack (De Co Hr [Du] 5): a spell that refines sugar out of a plant and removes impurities. Wonderful to removing bugs and grit as well as turning sugar cane, honey and beets into pure sugar.
Efforts of Kvarse (Cr Co He 10): Creates P ounces of pure golden honey. Kvarse prefers honey to sugar and so this spell makes very good quality honey.
Cool Preservation (De Py Sp 5): This spell is for preserving creams, custards and other treats and must be cast on a small enclosed display space this cantrip lasts an entire day and is often the first thing a baker casts to ensure the more finiky treats are preserved until purchase. the Spirador monitors and controls the temperature to better ensure the cakes and custards are safe. There are more complicated versions that can make entire rooms refrigerators but their duration is much shorter. Bakers pay handsomely for an enchanted space or item that refrigerates.

The spell Tasty Treat is considered verboten in this guild as a member should have the talent, skills and connections to not need such chicanery. Anyone proven to have used this on their wares is forced out of the guild and harried.

Thoughts?
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[User Picture]From: terrycloth
2010-07-16 05:31 pm (UTC)
You probably don't want Edged, which is for swords and is useless for using knives -- knives has its own skill.
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[User Picture]From: ziabandito555
2010-07-16 06:11 pm (UTC)
oops confused that (fix)

any other thoughts?
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[User Picture]From: terrycloth
2010-07-16 07:58 pm (UTC)
The 2 point experience advantages always worry me; I'd make sure it doesn't have too much useful experience worked in. I can't tell whether or not it does by eyeballing it though.

The spells are probably fine since they're almost useless for adventuring and mostly cantrips. If the list below is also included you probably want to limit the number of them you can start with anyway.

A lot of the spells are just useless in general, though -- it's more fun to have cantrips that do a simple thing that you probably won't need (eg, Fresh Water or Invisible Pot Holder) but might find a clever use for, than having them do a complicated thing that you *really* won't need (Happy Yeast Home?).
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[User Picture]From: ziabandito555
2010-07-16 08:21 pm (UTC)
I'll probably lower judge value and bargain a bit

Happy Yeast Home was just a silly little one I made for flavor. As someone who bakes a lot of bread I can assure you a random baker might find this useful especially on extreme weather Days or during Surprise.

I think you're right I'll limit the spells gained by having the knack and just make a "you can access these if you want to buy them"
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[User Picture]From: shurhaian
2010-07-17 10:27 pm (UTC)
The problem with utility spells is that no commoner has enough cley per day to do their job entirely with them. They're good for an important rush job(high-status client tapping his foot in your shop), but not for an entire day's work.

Also, a note: Sugar is a pretty basic substance. So long as it's reasonably clean and pure, sugar is sugar - you can't have poor-quality sugar that doesn't taste as good unless you have a substantial amount of not-sugar. As with water, the main thing you'd get for more power is volume.
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[User Picture]From: shurhaian
2010-07-17 10:34 pm (UTC)
Addendum re: sugar - compare Handful of Salt(CrDu 10) with Clean the Bush Salt(MuHlDuHr 10). The former makes a smaller quantity, but since it makes it fresh, it's pure salt; the latter refines a natural source(in this case, impure bush salt) to get the same stuff but in greater volume. You might be able to speed up the process of getting bush salt using DeAqDu(Du in there because any simple spell needs Durudor to work on a partially-Durudor material), too, though at that point you're pumping an awful lot of cley into the process, so unless you need salt in a hurry...
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[User Picture]From: archadia
2010-07-17 11:11 am (UTC)
Eeeeee! I like it!
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[User Picture]From: sythyry
2010-07-17 02:09 pm (UTC)
Makes sense to me. I'd expect to have some spells for stirring, kneading, and cleaning up, too.

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[User Picture]From: ziabandito555
2010-07-17 05:31 pm (UTC)
Stirring and Kneading are probably Ruloc spells, if you have suggestions for names that would be cool...

Cleaning either using Destroc or some Locodor variant of Invisible Maid.
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[User Picture]From: shurhaian
2010-07-17 10:29 pm (UTC)
Destroc Herbador to clean up the flour and crumbs would probably be the way to go.

For Ruloc spells, you'd want something that you cast on a vessel or tool, I think, rather than on the batch of dough, so that you can ideally cycle several batches through it and make the most of that cley. Stir the Wooden Spoon, perhaps? If cast with Spiridor, it'd be more esoteric, but would also stop stirring when you need it to(e.g. to get the mix out of the bowl and put new stuff in).
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2013-02-17 04:21 am (UTC)
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